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Rudolph Leaving For Pitt Too

Another one bites the dust.

Joe Rudolph has officially joined Paul Chryst and Bob Bostad at Pitt.

The move suggests Bret Bielema was not going to offer Rudolph the offensive coordinator position at Wisconsin, because this is an otherwise lateral move, although Rudolph is from the Pittsburgh area.

Bielema now only has one remaining offensive coach on his staff: running backs coach Thomas Hammock.

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Rudolph also served as Wisconsin's recruiting coordinator and his departure is a huge blow in that regard. It will be very interesting to see if any Badgers verbal commits change their mind before Feb. 1.

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The loss of Rudolph hurts the most

Great recruiter. I think BB said he’ll have most of his new staff in place for the last two weeks in January, so I expect there will be a lot of news by next weekend.

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If it made sense, it wouldn't be the BCS.

by John Veldhuis on Jan 6, 2012 3:49 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed, this one stinks the most

If Rudy wanted to be an OC, why go to Pitt? Bostad already has it nailed down. Both Del Alexander and Rudolph bolt for their same positions at much lower-profile programs … the fact that each of them get to “go home” somewhat only makes them lateral moves AT BEST.

BB must have a trick up his sleeve to make that proclamation about getting his staff all ready for January just as Rudolph is leaving.

How many recruits change their mind?

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by Phil Mitten on Jan 6, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess this is what comes with success

Hopefully Bielema has a plan for filling in all these empty coaching positions, and hopefully recruits don’t decommit.

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by BlackPack-fan on Jan 6, 2012 3:59 PM CST reply actions  

Should this be a concern?

Is this an indication of an underlying problem with the head coach?

Any thoughts?

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by White92 on Jan 6, 2012 4:04 PM CST reply actions  

No news is bad news at this point

What I mean by that is we better hear or see something from BB that he has a plan for all of this. If we don’t see him make some moves or announcements within the next week or two, then we’ll know that he didn’t anticipate any of this….and yes, that’ll mean there is an underlying problem. That many coaches don’t leave, especially for lateral moves, unless there is an issue.

I really hate saying this because I have zero issue with what we did with RW, but its like we sold our offensive souls to the devil in 2011 and now we’re playing the price with coaches.

by IrishBrewerBadger on Jan 6, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes it should be a concern

When your recruiting coordinator jumps ship there is something going on behind the scenes. It could be that these coaches have figured out that Bret has blown many games with poor time management and they don’t want to deal with the incompetence anymore.

by James Chaven on Jan 6, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

No it's not a concern.

If there was a problem with Bielema, then Chryst and Bostad wouldn’t have turned down more money from Texas last year to stay at Wisconsin.

Let’s recap and all get on the same page, OK? Paul Chryst got a promotion. Bostad and Chryst have always been considered a package (like w/ Texas last year) and Bostad was offered a promotion so he left. Huxtable also got a promotion. And Rudolph is very close with both Bostad and Chryst AND he’s from the Pittsburgh area.

ALL of these moves make sense. Let’s not start creating rumors and issues that aren’t true.

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by Adam Hoge on Jan 6, 2012 6:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I wasn't trying to start rumors

Just asking a question

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by White92 on Jan 6, 2012 7:13 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Sorry.

Didn’t mean to single you out in that regard. That topic has just circulated enough today that I don’t want it to start becoming one of those myths that people start believing.

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by Adam Hoge on Jan 6, 2012 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

More Paul Chryst being a dick.

Way to be loyal to a program.

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by d-mac on Jan 6, 2012 4:36 PM CST reply actions  

Not how the coaching profession works.

Chryst has a new job now and he’s doing a great job hiring a staff at Pitt. Have to look at it from that angle. Sucks for Wisconsin, but that’s how it works.

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by Adam Hoge on Jan 6, 2012 6:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Bullshit.

He just emptied our entire staff. What a dick.

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by dtpollitt on Jan 7, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Yes!

Dave Doren didn’t do this when he left and he still won a conference championship his first year at NIU. Im not concerned so much about loosing the coaches- I believe Bret can find decent replacements, but I am concerned about the lack of stability causing some of our recruits to de-commit. This recruiting class is one of our best. This is going to hurt our standing in the hierarchy of college football and in the eyes of the recruits at least in the short term. This is where we could have used a Rose Bowl win, and I say bullshit on Oregon needing the win more than us, they are already a national power.

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by d-mac on Jan 8, 2012 11:09 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

If BB was doing something they didn't like

Why would they stay for 4 or 5 years? Why stick around that long if he’s so bad to work for?

Every coach that has left has left for a promotion, or to go coach somewhere where they’d be more at home.

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If it made sense, it wouldn't be the BCS.

by John Veldhuis on Jan 8, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Some of these guys left for lateral moves, right?

Why leave for a lateral position?

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by dtpollitt on Jan 8, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

It could be something that Bret recently started/stopped doing that irked them

I think BB probably stopped coming to Poker ‘n’ Wings night now that he’s engaged and it hurt everyone else’s feeelings…

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by Phil Mitten on Jan 9, 2012 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

one more question

Couldn’t they have limited the number of assistants that Chryst could poach? I know they can in my business

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by White92 on Jan 6, 2012 7:11 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

Well, here's the big question

Did Bielema offer the OC position to either Bostad or Rudolph? If he did, then there is decent reason to wonder why neither of them stayed at UW.

This is also one of those things that also stays quiet within the coaching fraternity. We may never know the answer. My guess is that neither one got an offer, otherwise, I think both (especially Rudolph) would have stayed.

To answer your question though, offering a promotion or a raise is really the only way Bielema could have kept them. Doesn’t seem like either was offered.

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by Adam Hoge on Jan 6, 2012 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

And you'd think BB would rather let them walk

Than give them a promotion or a raise he didn’t think they were ready for. Maybe he thought Rudolph needed more seasoning.

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If it made sense, it wouldn't be the BCS.

by John Veldhuis on Jan 6, 2012 11:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Chryst was a loss

But it was predictable, and I figured we could move on from him without anything catastrophic happening. When Bostad went, it was a bit of surprise and definitely hurts — OL is the team’s calling card and Bostad is a great coach. But we still had Rudolph, and I figured he could do good things with the OL. Now Rudolph… Panic beginning to set in. WTF is Bielema doing over there? Desperately hoping he has a grand master plan, but am suspecting that is not the case.

by BadgerInDC on Jan 7, 2012 4:00 PM CST reply actions  

I'm getting fonder and fonder of the idea of offering to bring in Nate Tice as a minor offensive coach.

Pretty soon, he’ll be the only person on staff who has ever met anyone on the roster.

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by Tepo6688 on Jan 7, 2012 8:06 PM CST reply actions  

When Alvarez lost Brad Childress

Folks thought the world has ended

It didn’t

Good programs absorb this stupider and keep going

by Big10freak on Jan 8, 2012 7:53 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

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