Playing devil's advocate: The negatives of Nebraska joining the Big Ten
Let's start off with a disclaimer. Unless this is your first time visiting B5Q, you know I fully support the addition of Nebraska to the Big Ten. For more on that, you can click here.
But that doesn't mean there aren't any negatives to this huge development. Let's take a look at some of those:
Why does no one seem to care that the Big 12 is about to be destroyed?
Over the last few seasons -- in both football and basketball -- the Big 12 was one of the most competitive and entertaining conferences in the country. I mean, I was watching a Texas Tech-Oklahoma State football game like I was Ben Rothlisberger taking a look at the "menu" at a bar (although I might have had that over in that game... we'll have to check).
But out of all the conferences I would have liked to see go "bye-bye", the Big 12 would have been second-to-last on my list behind only the Big Ten. This isn't just a conference getting destroyed. We're talking about the possible disappearance of Oklahoma-Texas (they would have to continue the series during the non-conference season, right?), Oklahoma-Oklahoma State, Kansas-Missouri, e.t.c. Even if all these teams play each other in non-conference contests, it's not the same when the conference title is on the line. Hopefully they will all stay together in whatever super-conference they might go to, but what's wrong with the Big 12? Even if Nebraska and Colorado left, why can't it remain with just 10 teams?
And here's a question no one is thinking about: What the hell is going to happen with Kansas basketball if the Jayhawks get left out of one of the major conferences? Are they just Memphis, then?
Half of the Big Ten just said to themselves, "Great, now we'll never win the Big Ten"
I don't get the feeling that any fans at Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Iowa and Wisconsin are really worried about the Cornhuskers, but what about the rest of the Big Ten? It's great to add a football program like Nebraska to the conference (and it was a unanimous vote), but if you're Northwestern, didn't your chances of ever returning to the Rose Bowl just get severely damaged?
Nebraska basketball: The bottom-feeder of the Big Ten
I talked to one Big Ten basketball player in the hours after the Nebraska news broke and I said to him, "Well, there's two more 'W's' for you every season."
He responded: "Yeah, no kidding"
Nebraska immediately comes into the Big Ten rivaling Northwestern for the title of worst basketball program in the conference. Doc Sadler took the Huskers to the NIT last year and is supposedly improving a historically horrible program, but moving into the Big Ten wasn't exactly the best move if he was trying to do that. Unlike the Big 12, there are few teams in the Big Ten you can pick on to grab a couple extra wins every season.
One Nebraska alum told me yesterday: "The crowd at my high school was better than at Husker basketball games."
Getting to Lincoln won't be easy for fans
Wisconsin is already trying to start a trophy game with Nebraska and considering it is one of the closest Big Ten schools to Lincoln, Neb. it seems like a good fit, but we are still talking about a 7.5 hour drive.
Only Minnesota and Iowa are closer to Nebraska than Wisconsin is, but that means eight other schools are even farther away. Fans at Northwestern, Illinois and Purdue could probably pull off the drive, but once we start talking about Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State and Penn State, we're talking about plane tickets.
Nebraska fans have to hate this, right?
I keep trying to put myself in the shoes of a Cornhusker fan right now and I'm struggling to think of positives from their point of view. Sure, the Big Ten is a major step up from the Big 12 North, but when you consider all the great football programs in the Big 12 South, it's pretty much a wash with the Big Ten.
So with the increased travel to places like Ohio State and Penn State, is it worth it? If you're a Cornhusker fan, your closest trip is to Iowa City, which is about a 4.5 hour drive. That's already a step up than your usual trips to Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State.
On top of that you are leaving behind decades of great games with Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado, e.t.c and you're killing the progress of your basketball program.
On the plus side, Nebraska baseball has to be the best team in the Big Ten, right?
Just a few things to think about. I hope I wasn't a total buzz kill. We still love Nebraska.
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I really can’t see the Husker fans calling this anything but a positive move. Most of them either don’t know or care about CIC inclusion, but it’s a big deal to regents. Let’s not forget what gets universities to that elite level both in the laboratory and on the field: money.
This is also something Husker football desperately needed after being stuck in mediocrity in the Big 12 North, a fresh start and a clean slate. Nebraska WAS the Big 12 in it’s inception, and basically the driving force in it’s creation. After that, they slipped from their pedestal in college football’s elite ranks, ditched the run for the west coast offense, and seemed to forget who they were fo a while. It was like the Nebraska monster that I saw as a preteen and rooted against because of it’s power just disappeared. Nebraska football is storied tradition. The Big Ten is tradition. This marriage only makes sense, and I do think that being able to sell playing at Camp Randall, TCF, Beaver, The Shoe, The Big House, etc. will sell to recruits, bring back Nebraska football, and definitely help the Big Integer.
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by Maisbikkja on Jun 12, 2010 11:47 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
You seriously can't think of any positives for Nebraska fans?
I have yet to talk to a Nebraska fan who doesn’t think this is a wonderful move.
Re travel times: Air travel is a wonderful thing. Nebraska loses several of its “just down the road” trips to places like Manhattan, Ames, Lawrence, Columbia, but Lincoln to Minneapolis is probably logistically as easy or easier than any of them. And there’s really not much difference between the trip to Austin, Waco or College Station (all in the 13-hour range) and Columbus, East Lansing and Happy Valley.
Basketball progress? That’s news to us. A move to the Big Ten is actually a slight plus for basketball, simply because Nebraska’s defense-heavy style fits in far better there than in the Big 12.
As far as the decades of tradition, the only real rivalry that most Nebraskans cared about was the Oklahoma series, and that one was essentially killed off at the creation of the Big 12. Nebraskans will miss the annual games against the old Big Eight teams, but they hate, hate, hate the Big 12. Always have. For Nebraskans, a move to the Big Ten doesn’t kill their tradition; the Big 12 already did that 15 years ago.
And that’s what it comes down to for most Nebraskans. The Big 12 has (had?) some really good football teams, but in everything else that makes a conference worthwhile, it falls woefully short. It is not a wash with the Big Ten. The Big Ten has a century of tradition and is the finest, most well respected academic conference in America short of the Ivy League. The Big 12 is a joke academically and has been around for only a decade and a half – a time period full of infighting and dissatisfaction, at that.
In terms of overall cachet, stability and prestige, the Big Ten and Big 12 are not on the same planet.
Thats kinda the point of devils advocate— to get the view point of two sides. Overall I am happy with the move, and think it is a good fit for both conferences.
It's a good fit football wise and bball wise.
But I don’t know about Northwestern being the worst program in the conference this year. Iowa, IU and Penn State are currenlty vying for that title, and I think Nebraska might scrape together five wins over those schools come 2011-2012…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jun 12, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I get that.
I’m just saying that his arguments that this might not be good for Nebraska aren’t very well thought through.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jun 12, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I think this is great.
I just don’t like the total dismantling of the Big 12. I guess it had to happen eventually with how messed up the Conference officials were.
by Bush League All Star on Jun 12, 2010 4:07 PM CDT reply actions
The Big Twelve Championship game sort of proved that...
That’s one call that killed any respect I had left for Texas at that point. It was right up there with the horrible penalty called on Travis Beckum in Michigan Stadium in 08: Horrible, horrible, horrible call, and one that only served to delay the inevitalbe (Texas losing).
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jun 12, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions

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