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NFL lockout would be beneficial for Badgers

Sure, the players never want to look too far ahead, but that doesn't mean we can't.

The thought originally crossed my mind over a month ago when the Badgers beat Iowa and proved that they were indeed for real: If J.J. Watt, John Clay and Nick Toon all return for their senior year, the Badgers could be a preseason top five team next year and be a serious national title contender.

That's not to say they aren't a serious national title contender right now. Unfortunately, that kind of talk is little a little too late for this bunch. Fair or not, preseason rankings play a huge role in a team's chances to reach the BCS National Championship Game. For instance, had the Badgers been a preseason top five team this year, they wouldn't have fallen as far as they did when they lost to Michigan State and would most likely be ranked ahead of Stanford right now and have a decent chance to leapfrog TCU if they hadn't already.

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A high preseason ranking gives highly regarded teams a little more margin for error. Remember when Alabama lost to South Carolina? Most experts claimed the Crimson Tide still controlled their own destiny and had they won the rest of their games -- including what would have been a win last weekend against Auburn -- there's little doubt Alabama would be No. 2 right now ahead of TCU.

The point is, if the Badgers win the Rose Bowl and their talented group of juniors decides to return, we're looking at a top five team in my eyes. Scott Tolzien, Gabe Carimi, John Moffitt and Lance Kendricks will be lost to graduation, but those are all areas where UW has a lot of depth. Let's not forget that versatile offensive lineman Travis Frederick, a starter last season, redshirted this year because there wasn't enough playing time going around. Ricky Wagner is already the next great left tackle at Wisconsin and there is enough depth for the offensive line to avoid skipping a beat. Jacob Pedersen is already a fine replacement at tight end and while Tolzien's intangibles will be missed the most, Jon Budmayr has the skill set to be an even better quarterback.

The question is, will Watt, Clay and Toon return for what could be an even more memorable season than this one?

Of the three, Watt is certainly the most NFL ready. I'm not sure Clay will get any better, but he needs to prove he can stay healthy before an NFL team will be willing to give him big money as a high draft pick. Toon has NFL potential, but he also needs to prove he can stay healthy and he still lacks the big season most NFL-caliber receivers have under their belt when they enter the draft.

Still, all three of them could conceivably declare for the draft by Jan. 14, which is the deadline.

But while they might be ready for the NFL, will the NFL be ready for them?

Every NFL expert that exists claims labor negotiations will go well into the offseason. That means a 2011 NFL season certainly won't be a guarantee by the Jan. 14 deadline. It's possible that deadline will be pushed back, but still, there are no guarantees a player leaving early for the NFL will get to play football next year.

Such a situation would be unfortunate for a guy like Watt, who's certainly NFL ready. You always want to have the best interests of the players at heart.

But that doesn't mean the Badgers won't benefit from an NFL lockout.

Imagine a team that brings Watt, Clay and Toon back. Watt would supplant a defense that would almost certainly be better. Niles Brinkley and Jay Valai are good, but replaceable players and let's not forget Chris Borland should be back -- although I still have doubts about whether or not his shoulder will ever be 100 percent again.

With Toon back, Budmayr would have a go-to guy to help him in his first season, but more importantly he would still have a three-headed running attack backing him up, which would take the pressure off, much like it has for Tolzien the last two seasons.

Even if Watt, Toon and Clay were too leave, the Badgers would still be a top 25 team capable of challenging for a Big Ten title, but with all three back, we're talking about one of the best teams in the country.

You may love the NFL, but a lockout has an major upside for the Badgers.

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Toon leaving after a season like this

would kill his stock IMO. This was not the sort of season he could have afforded to put up; he did more to lose the MSU game than anyone not on the punt coverage team, and he missed, what, 4 games to injury when he could have suited up?

Toon is most likely going to be back. He has one good season to hang his hat on (2009) but little else. He needs to come back next season if he wants to be the next Brandon Williams. Heck, I would love it if Toon had a senior season like Jonathan Orr.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Nov 30, 2010 6:20 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Clay

I also think that Clay should come back. He’s a (so-far) injury prone 250 lb running back who (statistically) is the 2nd best Wisconsin RB this year behind White. While there have been some good big backs, some teams might be compare him to a lesser version of Ron Dayne. A big guy who can run over college players but isn’t fast enough to cut it in the NFL. I don’t see him as a first day draft pick if he comes out this year.

by Kuhl on Nov 30, 2010 7:35 PM CST reply actions  

My other knock on Clay (this may be unfair)...

is that he doesn’t appear to be in shape. I would like to see him cut down on his weight a bit. Some games he appears to just be gassed. Plus and added bonus of being slightly less injury prone on some of those lesser injuries.

by Bush League All Star on Dec 1, 2010 1:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

He’s a great power back and fits our system well, but he’s injury prone and appears gassed any time he breaks a run. Very often this year it seemed like he’d break a big run to get the ball inside of the red zone and then would have to come out of the game for James White. Now, White is an incredible running back, but I’d rather have 250 lb Clay in the red zone then 190 lb James White. If he doesn’t get into better shape, I think White or Ball has to be the primary RB between the 20’s so that we can use Clay’s size when it matters most.

by Kuhl on Dec 1, 2010 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Please stay, J.J.

That’s all I want for Christmas.

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by Ben Buchanan on Nov 30, 2010 7:59 PM CST reply actions  

You're Selling Tolzien Short

I think Tolzien has been the key to this season(and last). Wisconsin has good offensive lines and running backs almost every year but rarely have they put together a season like this one. I really don’t know what Budmayr’s skill set is, and I doubt anyone else does either until he gets in a game, but there almost HAS to be a significant dropoff from the most efficient QB in Div. 1 for this year.

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by lonebadger on Nov 30, 2010 8:26 PM CST reply actions  

And...

We are very likely going to lose at least one of our coordinators. Do not underestimate their importance to this football team.

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by lonebadger on Dec 1, 2010 8:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I think Curt Phillips may very well take the starting spot next year as Tolzien took it in 2009.

Can you imagine Wisconsin running the option with him as QB after his ACL heals?

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 1, 2010 8:42 AM CST up reply actions  

While it would be nice to have a scrambler again...

 I would hate to see UW as an option offense. We’re a pro style running offense and it’s worked well for us. With the running backs we have (even if Clay declares for the draft) I wouldn’t want to take the ball out of their hands to have the QB run it.

by Kuhl on Dec 1, 2010 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Damn it.

What the hell?

We need some Wisconsin medical major to invent a replaceable ACL. This is just ridiculous.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 1, 2010 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait...

If he just tore it, he could definitely be back by the start of the regular season. But he’d miss all of spring practice.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 1, 2010 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

This is a great point and something I should have put in the story.

The greatest loss of all could be Paul Chryst. I definitely don’t think I am selling Tolzien short, I think I just like what I have seen from Budmayr and I know Chryst can mold any of these guys into capable quarterbacks (just look at what he did with Tolzien). But if Chryst leaves… uh oh.

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by Adam Hoge on Dec 1, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

I have a gut feeling that JJ will stay.

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by John Veldhuis on Nov 30, 2010 10:11 PM CST reply actions  

Hey, visiting Duck fan here

My little sister is in college in Ohio and has a couple friends who are from Wisconsin and they want to go to the Rosebowl. They asked me some advice since I went last year and I don’t want to direct my little sister to work with a friend-of-a-friend’s bookie from Tiajuana.

Can you guys give me any advice to point them in the right direction? Thanks in advance

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by Your Favorite Team's Favorite Team on Nov 30, 2010 10:32 PM CST reply actions  

Not exactly sure what you're looking for,

but the Wisconsin Alumni Association is selling Rose Bowl packages (transportation, accommodations, etc.) here: http://www.uwalumni.com/home/bowltour_packages.aspx
You could also go with badgertrips.com.

Those packages don’t include tickets to the actual game…to snag those I would recommend checking your options at the Rose Bowl website, UWBadgers.com, and StubHub.

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by Adam Tupitza on Dec 2, 2010 7:26 AM CST up reply actions  

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